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Tuesday, July 27, 2021

1911 Census of Canada and Addresses in Ontario

Although the 1851, 1861, 1871, and 1901 Censuses of Canada have additional schedules which have survived to provide us with more detailed information of where our ancestors resided, the 1911 census also has that information included in the surviving "Schedule 1, Population".

From the Library and Archives Canada page on "Census of Canada, 1911" under the Columns headings and interpretation" section they state:

Column 4. Place of habitation

  • For cities, towns or incorporated villages, the number of the house and the name of the street, such as "14 Bay Street."
  • For rural districts, the name of the township, lot, parish or cadastral number such as "lot 13, concession 1."
  • For Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta, the location was noted by township, range or meridian such as "T. 14, R. 9, W. 3," for township 14, range 9, west of the 3rd meridian.

The exact wording of the instructions to the enumerators can be found in the "Fifth Census of Canada 1911: Instructions to Officers, Commissioners and Enumerators" on page 26, item 82, "Place of habitation"

In theory, if the enumerator was being diligent, we should have that information when we come across them in the 1911 Census of Canada.

The operative phrase here is "In theory". Here are a few samples from my own collection of 1911 Census of Canada pages in Ontario to highlight the various ways enumerators recorded the place of habitation.

Here, the enumerator only provided the name of the township, N. Elmsley:

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 90, sub-district 15, Elmsley North Township, p. 4; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 18 Nov 2013); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20381.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 90, sub-district 15, Elmsley North Township, p. 4; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 18 Nov 2013); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20381.

Contrast that with the following extract from the census done in Tay Township, Simcoe County where the enumerator provided the lot and concession.

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 119, sub-district 21, Tay Township, p. 7; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 19 Feb 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20397.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 119, sub-district 21, Tay Township, p. 7; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 19 Feb 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20397.

What about the villages, town, and cities in Ontario? Here is an example with the street number and name recorded in the place of habitation. As long as the street name hasn't changed, the street hasn't been renumbered, or the street completely removed we have a chance of finding the location on a current map.

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 132, sub-district 46, Niagara Falls, p. 38; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 8 Aug 2015); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20408.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 132, sub-district 46, Niagara Falls, p. 38; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 8 Aug 2015); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20408.

There may be occasions where we have to read around some of the tally marks made by the enumerator or statistician. So that can be annoying at times.

Sometime you only get the name of the street and not the number. But that's better than nothing...right?

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 83, sub-district 20, Goderich, p. 24; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 1 Jan 2019); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20378.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 83, sub-district 20, Goderich, p. 24; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 1 Jan 2019); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20378.

Unfortunately, there are times where not even the street name is given as we find for the Town of Clinton. All the enumerator wrote was "Clinton".

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 83, sub-district 17, Clinton Town, p. 13; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 9 Oct 2012); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20378.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 83, sub-district 17, Clinton Town, p. 13; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 9 Oct 2012); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20378.

What really makes life challenging is when the paper copy was put onto microfilm and the quality of the image is, for a better word, lacking.

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 68, sub-district 49, Kingsville, p. 1; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Nov 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20371.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 68, sub-district 49, Kingsville, p. 1; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Nov 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20371.

Hopefully with graphic editing software you might be able to bring out the details (this is just a quick first pass contrast/gamma correction using Irfanview)

1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 68, sub-district 49, Kingsville, p. 1; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Nov 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20371; colour adjusted.
1911 census of Canada, Ontario, district 68, sub-district 49, Kingsville, p. 1; RG 31; digital images, Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., Ancestry.com (www.ancestry.com : accessed 27 Nov 2014); citing Library and Archives Canada microfilm T-20371; colour adjusted.

As you can see, the 1911 Census of Canada also has clues we can use to find our ancestors on the ground.

Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Finding on the Ground: Then and Now in Ontario

When dealing with land records in Ontario one of the challenges I still struggle with is locating the property when the family lived in an urban area. So when I saw the following post in the Ontario Genealogy Facebook group I decided to give it another go.

"I have found my 2nd great grandparents, William and Jane Hughes on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 censuses in Orangeville. Is there any way to figure out exactly where in the Orangeville area they lived?"

There were several good suggestions such as looking on the Canadian County Atlas Digital Project and looking at Ontario city directories like those linked to by The Ancestor Hunt. Out of those suggestions, another clue was provided to help me locate the family in the census. William and Jane Hughes had sons Robert and William were tailors. One person suggested looking at the other census schedules since they provide real estate information.

And that is where I am going to start.

Out of the three Canada censuses mentioned in the original query, the 1871 census of Canada is the only one with surviving schedules beyond the Population Schedule. On Ancestry I started looking for a William Hughes residing in Orangeville with a Jane as a possible spouse and Robert and William in the household. Keep in mind that the 1871 census of Canada doesn't list the familial relationships so we have to often make assumptions as to the relationship or use other records to confirm the connect. I also used Ancestry for several reasons:

  • Ancestry has images for the 1871 census available for viewing whereas FamilySearch doesn't. FamilySearch does have the census transcribed but I prefer looking at the image for other clues.
  • The URL for the image which Ancestry presents includes details I can use to view the same image on the Library and Archives Canada site.
  • The search system on the Library and Archives Canada site for censuses is not as powerful as that found on Ancestry

After searching Ancestry I found one household which fit the information about the family.

Here is the family of William Hughes in the Wellington Centre district (34), Orangeville sub-district (i), on page 66, starting at line 1, dwelling 236, family 236.

1871 Census of Canada, Wellington Centre (district 34), Orangeville (sub-district i), Schedule 1, p. 66-67, Household of William Hughes; RG 31; digital images, Library and Archives Canada (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021); citing microfilm C-9948.
1871 Census of Canada, Wellington Centre (district 34), Orangeville (sub-district i), Schedule 1, p. 66-67, Household of William Hughes; RG 31; digital images, Library and Archives Canada (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021); citing microfilm C-9948.

Now I turned to my own prior blog post "Ontario Concession and Lot in the 1871 Census of Canada" to guide me through the process to locate Schedule 4, Return of cultivated land and products on Ancestry. For that I needed to record the following details:

  • District: Wellington Centre (34)
  • Sub-district: Orangeville (i)
  • Page: 66
  • Line: 1

Moving through the virtual filmstrip on Ancestry I quickly came to image 54 of 85 which has the image of the Schedule 4 page which references back to page 66, line 1 of Schedule 1 - Nominal Return of Living (AKA the Population Schedule).

1871 Census of Canada, Wellington Centre (district 34), Orangeville (sub-district i), Schedule 4, p. 12-13; RG 31; digital images, Library and Archives Canada (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021); citing microfilm C-9948.
1871 Census of Canada, Wellington Centre (district 34), Orangeville (sub-district i), Schedule 4, p. 12-13; RG 31; digital images, Library and Archives Canada (http://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021); citing microfilm C-9948.

If this was a rural property I would have expected to see a concession and lot number after the columns with the 66 and 1. Instead there are dashes which leads me to believe the property is within the village of Orangeville. Even then there are bits of information for us.

  • William owns the property
  • There are 3 acres occupied
  • 3 acres have been improved
  • 1 acre allocated for pasture
  • 1 acre has been used to produce 100 bushels of potatoes

I still don't know where in Orangeville they reside. The directories I did come across were farmer and business directories and I didn't find William Hughes listed with an address. But, based on my own experience, that isn't too surprising. So off to my next stop, the land records.

For this I wanted to look at the Land Record books. Normally I'd start with the Abstract Index books but sometimes the Land Record books include a name index at the front and the Abstract Index books don't. But I don't have a lot, concession, or any other specific about the location. So I took a gamble in the hopes of short-cutting the search.

On FamilySearch I used the catalogue to search for the current county which has Orangeville within its bounds, Dufferin. For the place I typed "Canada, Ontario, Dufferin" to get to the land and property records for that county. Within the Land and property section I selected "Land record of Dufferin County, ca. 1821-1955" to open up the Land Records collection. Scrolling through the list of digitized microfilms I noted that the earlier Orangeville volume "O" books may be indexed. With any luck the index will help me.

I selected DGS 8548530, "Orangeville (indexed) 1825-1863; Orangeville (v. 1) 1841-1869; Orangeville (v. O, indexed) 1864-1869" as a starting place on the hope that William Hughes had land transactions in that time since he was already settled in Orangeville by 1871.

The Town of Orangeville Deeds volume "O" which I was interested in started at image 345 in that digitized microfilm reel.

As an aside, although the current town of Orangeville is in Dufferin County in Ontario and not Wellington County, until 1879 Orangeville was part of Wellington County. Yes, geography can be confusing and boundaries can shift or be created over time. This can actually be seen when you read the description page of that volume where it is recorded:

"This Register contains, exclusive of the Index 175 pages and is to be used in and for the Village of Orangeville in the County of Wellington for the Enregistration of Memorials, under the provisions of the Act of the Legislature of the Province of Canada passed in the Ninth Year of Her Majesty's Reign..."

In the index I came across a mortgage instrument for William Hughes and wife recorded as instrument 133 on folio 299. This looked promising.

After bouncing through the virtual microfilm images I came to instrument 133 starting on image 525. This was an indenture made on the 20th of February, 1868 by William Hughes of the village of Orangeville in the County of Wellington, Province of Ontario and Dominion of Canada, a weaver, and Jane Hughes of the same place as the first two parties with William Armstrong as the other party. 

William and Jane Hughes? That is the couple we are looking for. A good sign.

After reading through a whole bunch of legalese I came across the mention that the property is three acres. Three acres is the same amount of land recorded in Schedule 4 of the 1871 census of Canada for this household. I think I found the property.

A bit further on it states:

"...being composed of Part lot number Eight on the South Side of Factory Street in said Village..."

Just a second!

That's a street name and even a lot number.

This is easy now I though to myself. I just have to put into Google Maps the street name and Orangeville and it will appear.

And no such luck. It looked like there is no Factory Street in present day Orangeville. OK, not a problem. I just have more work to do.

This is where old maps come in handy. A quick search for "old maps of orangeville ontario" (without the quotes) on Google Images brought me to the "2017 - TRAILBLAZERS" page of the Digital Historian Project at the Dufferin County Museum & Archives. On that page I found an early map of Orangeville from 1875 (based on the map filename).

It wasn't too long before I found Factory Street and on the south side of the street there is even a lot 8.

Map of Orangeville, "2017 - TRAILBLAZERS", Digital Historian Project Canada Case Files. (https://digitalhistorianproject.wordpress.com/2017-trailblazers/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021), extract focused on Factory and Centre Streets.
Map of Orangeville, "2017 - TRAILBLAZERS", Digital Historian Project Canada Case Files. (https://digitalhistorianproject.wordpress.com/2017-trailblazers/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021), extract focused on Factory and Centre Streets.

Yet where is that street now? Does it even exist? Has it been renamed?

To answer that question I returned to Google Maps to look at the present day map of Orangeville. Using the clues in the older map. With a little bit of create work in Google Maps I was able to align the map to sort of have the same orientation of the old map. Lo and behold, doesn't this area look like that extract from the old map?

Screen capture from Google Maps centred on Hillside Drive and Centre Street, Orangeville, Ontario, Canada (accessed 13 Jul 2021).
Screen capture from Google Maps centred on Hillside Drive and Centre Street, Orangeville, Ontario, Canada (accessed 13 Jul 2021).

It seems like Factory Street has been renamed as Hillside Drive. I now had a current street name and with that I can possibly use the Ontario Land Property Records Portal, OnLand, Property search function but I still needed a street number. I used the Street View on Google Maps and guessed that it might be around 5 Hillside Drive.

If you haven't used OnLand yet then you are in for a rough ride initially. It has a bit of a learning curve but the results can be worth it. I'm not going to go into the details of how I found the documents though. That will possibly be for a future post.

So when I put that address into the OnLand Property address search it returned:

PT LT 8, PL 170 AS IN MF138033 ; ORANGEVILLE

as the property details.

There is that Lot 8. It is referenced as part of Plan 170 (PL 170).

I wasn't going to celebrate until I could actually see the Abstract/Parcel Index book page for that property and I see William Hughes listed.

When I looked at in the Abstract/Parcel Register Book under Historical Books for the Dufferin Land Registry Office (LRO) and filtered by Orangeville as the municipality the list was way too short so that filter wasn't going to help me. But I did see that the various "PLAN ###" books didn't have a Township/Municipality assigned. Just great...NOT!

Scrolling through the list I quickly (yay!) found PLAN 170 in Book B113. Opening that book I found it only had 63 pages. I can easily deal with looking through 63 pages.

On image 26 I found the start of the Town of Orangeville, Lot 8, Plan 170 pages.

Screen capture from the Dufferin LRO, Historical Books, Abstract/Parcel Index for Town of Orangeville, Lot 8, Plan 170, page 1; Ontario Land Property Records Portal (https://www.onland.ca/ui/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021)
Screen capture from the Dufferin LRO, Historical Books, Abstract/Parcel Index for Town of Orangeville, Lot 8, Plan 170, page 1; Ontario Land Property Records Portal (https://www.onland.ca/ui/ : accessed 13 Jul 2021)

There is the B&S for William Armstrong and wife selling the property to William Hughes on 20 Feb 1868. The instrument is number 132. That is just one instrument before the one describing the mortgage William Hughes took out to pay for the property.

Here is the start of that instrument as found on FamilySearch in the Land Records book for Orangeville, Book "O":

Land records of Dufferin County, ca. 1821-1955, Orangeville (indexed) 1825-1863; Orangeville (v. 1) 1841-1869; Orangeville (v. O, indexed) 1864-1869, instrument 132; Registrar's Office, Orangeville, Ontario; DGS 8,548,530, image 525 (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3QZ-WF3K : accessed 13 Jul 2021).
Land records of Dufferin County, ca. 1821-1955, Orangeville (indexed) 1825-1863; Orangeville (v. 1) 1841-1869; Orangeville (v. O, indexed) 1864-1869, instrument 132; Registrar's Office, Orangeville, Ontario; DGS 8,548,530, image 525, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3QZ-WF3K : accessed 13 Jul 2021).

To answer the original question "Is there any way to figure out exactly where in the Orangeville area they lived?", yes it is possible. All it took was the combined resources of:

  • 1871 Census of Canada, Schedule 1
  • 1871 Census of Canada, Schedule 4
  • Ontario Land Record books on FamilySearch
  • Ontario Land Property Record Portal (OnLand) Historical Abstract/Parcel Index books
  • Google Maps
  • Google Search
  • some effort
  • and a bit of luck


Tuesday, July 13, 2021

Etienne Campeau and his Confirmation in 1664

A week or so ago, I came across this question on the Genealogy à la carte Facebook group hosted by Gail Dever:

"I have found references to my 7th g-grandfather Etienne Campeau being confirmed in Montreal on 11 May, 1664 and July 11th of that year. I can't find it in the regular parish book for Basilique Notre-Dame.  The trick fellow group members taught me of looking under Not Stated didn't work as in the Quebec City records on Ancestry.  Any ideas?"

It got my attention since it is what I call a "good question". A name, several dates, and a place is specified along with where the person looked and even how they searched for possible leads. So I figured I'd take a look at what could be found since I'm always wanting to expand my research horizons when it comes to Quebéc records. This is always a challenge for me since my comprehension of the French language is not exactly great.

The first step was to see if I could find any references to the confirmation of Etienne Campeau in Montreal in 1664. So I plunked the terms "etienne campeau montreal confirmation 1664" (without the quotes) into my favourite search engine. The result which initially looked most promising was one on Geni, a site which operates on the "single world family tree model". On the profile page for "Étienne Campeau dit Limousin" managed by Gisèle J.M. Fiola there it is written in a history prepared by Hélène-Andrée Bizier:

"Nothing significant happens in 1664, safe the confirmation of Étienne Campeau whose name appears on two lists of confirmations, one in May and the other dated July 11th"

along with the following noted event found in a bullet list in the same profile:

"Confirmation: 11 Jul 1664, Montréal, Île-de-Montréal, Québec, Canada."

So I continued my searching since the profile page didn't have any sources for those statements.

The next search result which got my attention was "116 – Confirmations à Québec, Trois-Rivières et Montréal en 1664" posted on 28 Feb 2016 in Le blogue de Guy Perron. That post has transcriptions of the various confirmations in Quebéc in a list format. Indeed, there is the name of Étienne Campeau recorded as being confirmed on May 1644 in Montréal. Even better, at the bottom of the list is the source: "Fonds Drouin en ligne. Registre des confirmations. Archives de l’Archidiocèse de Québec. 1659-1725. p. 29-30)."

Next it was off to the online presence of the Archives de l’Archidiocèse de Québec. It took a little bit of browsing on that site to find references to the possible confirmation records. I found a mention at the bottom of their Généalogie : ressources internes page where it stated "Registres de confirmations, 1659-" I also came across the digitization project page where it would appear that the "Registre des confirmations, vol. I, 1659-" was digitized in 2014. However, it seems like they are only available at the archives in person and not online.

I figured I'd also check the PRDH-IGD site for any other clues. In Ottawa, ever since the pandemic, we are fortunate that PRDH-IGD has been made available to us to free via the Ottawa Public Library and our library card. There I found the two entries for a confirmation of Etienne Campeau at Montréal (Notre-Dame-de-Montréal). The first had the date of 1664-05 and the second entry included the day: 1664-05-11. 

The source for the 1664-05 entry is recorded as "LE QUANTIEME DE LA DATE DE LA LISTE DE CONFIRMES A ETE OMIS, ELLE EST SITUEE ENTRE LA LISTE DE CONFIRMES DE TROIS-RIVIERES DU 01-05-1664 ET CELLE DE TROIS-RIVIERES DU 22-05-1664" and Etienne's name is written as "Etinne Campot". However, there is no source specified for the second entry. Both entries also didn't have links to the original documents on GénéalogieQuébec.com so I needed to keep looking.

I revised my search to use the information I'd found and I used the search term "notre dame montreal confirmation 1600..1700 registre" (without the quotes). For those unfamiliar with number searches on Google, the double dots, "..", instruct Google to search a range of numbers. In this case, I'm looking for web pages and documents with the year 1600 to 1700 specified. Of course, Google doesn't know they are years, but a number is still a number.

With that search term I came across the PDF "Register of Abjurations Drouin-Pépin Collection - From 1662" on the Genealogy Ensemble site. The PDF is from their "Register of Abjurations" post from 3 Feb 2015 and within the PDF it mentions "Microfilm #3140 - Diocèse de Québec - Registre des abjurations - From 1662 to 1757". But I'm looking for confirmations so why did Google highlight this PDF? It was this paragraph which helped explain what else might be found on the microfilm:

"Please note, the above microfilms does contain both acts of abjuration and acts of confirmation, for under the leadership of Monsignor François de Montmorency de Laval, Bishop of Nouvelle France from 1659 to 1708, acts of confirmation and abjuration were recorded together within the same parish registers. It does create confusion in trying to decipher if an adult who was confirmed was previously a protestant or simply a non-believer. Some of the acts of confirmations contained within this microfilm also list young people, or it appears to be so - Finally, do not expect an index of people, it does not exist - One must review each document one by one."

I now had a new search term to possibly follow: "Registre des abjurations". So, back to Google for yet another search and I put those words into the search box (without the quotes) and the third result was for a page in the FamilySearch catalogue. FamilySearch catalogue entries are often good since the material may be available online and for free.

That brought me to "Registres paroissiaux, 1662-1848". In reading the notes for the catalogue page two points got my attention:

  • Microfilm des originaux dans l'Archives de l'Archidiocèse de Québec.
  • Confirmations de l'eglise de Notre-Dame de Québec et autres de la diocèse, 1659-1771 et abjurations, 1662-1757

I was just at the  l'Archives de l'Archidiocèse de Québec web site and the confirmations and abjurations line described what I was wanting to find and in the time period I was searching.

So after signing in with my free FamilySearch account I could look at the digitized microfilm DGS 5471926. With 668 images to review I was not looking forward to looking at each page. However, this is where the microfilm information cards come in handing. These cards indicate where one item or volume placed on a microfilm starts and ends and they generally stand out when looking at the page of digitized microfilm images.

Fairly quickly I got to image 524. This is the start of  item 14,"Confirmations" for the Eglise du Canada, Quebec, Canada which was microfilmed on 10 Sep 1981 by the Genealogical Society, Salt Lake City, Utah at the Archeveche de Quebec.

"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99W-6DG9 : 16 July 2014), Localités multiples > Localités multiples > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1662-1848 > image 1545 of 1689; microfilm title card for Confirmations, Eglise du Canada; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.
"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L99W-6DG9 : 16 July 2014), Localités multiples > Localités multiples > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1662-1848 > image 1545 of 1689; microfilm title card for Confirmations, Eglise du Canada; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

I slowly worked my way through the images taking the time to read, and in some cases transcribe into Google Translate to help me with my very rusty French, the various introductory pages.

There on page 29, just like the "116 – Confirmations à Québec, Trois-Rivières et Montréal en 1664" post stated, I found the name Etienne Campot confirmed in Montréal on May 1664.

"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99W-66KZ : 16 July 2014), Localités multiples > Localités multiples > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1662-1848 > image 1563 of 1689; Etienne Compot, Confirmer à Montréal le May 1664; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.
"Canada, Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G99W-66KZ : 16 July 2014), Localités multiples > Localités multiples > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1662-1848 > image 1563 of 1689; Etienne Compot, Confirmer à Montréal le May 1664; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal.

Another digitized microfilm copy of the same page can be found in the "Registres paroissiaux, 1662-1848" on DGS 5468668. Yes, I know that this is the same name as the other catalogue on FamilySearch but it appears to be a different filming of the same documents. But it never hurts to always double check since different filmings may include other information or the images might be clearer.

That second confirmation date of 11 Jul 1664 took a bit more work. However, since I was already on FamilySearch I looked for church records for "Canada, Québec, Île-de-Montréal, Montréal". In the catalogue entry for "Registres paroissiaux, 1642-1680", which is for the Catholic church of Notre-Dame, I saw that the description of DGS 8633229 is "Baptêmes, 1642-1680 (comprend des confirmations, 1664, 1676 et 1678); Mariages, 1643, 1647-1650"

"Registres paroissiaux, 1642-1680," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3HC-Y3DM-6 : 13 July 2021), image 194 of 524; Etienne Compot, confirmation 11 Jul May 1664; Library and Archives Canada, Registre de la pariosse Notre-Dame, Montréal, 1642-1669, MG-8, G-19, volume 1.
"Registres paroissiaux, 1642-1680," database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C3HC-Y3DM-6 : 13 July 2021), image 194 of 524; Etienne Compot, confirmation 11 Jul May 1664; Library and Archives Canada, Registre de la pariosse Notre-Dame, Montréal, 1642-1669, MG-8, G-19, volume 1.

This is the same list of names found in l'Archives de l'Archidiocèse de Québec but now found in the registers for Notre-Dame in Montréal but with a different date.

You never know what you will find as you work through the records and follow the clues found within.